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Problemless with problems
by Rebel Leader
Location: Where angels lose their way...
Age: 22    Sex : M
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It's not the milk's fault 2 2/16/2004
My girlfriend, already sadly aware of my lack of feelings for her, hated to be reminded and was upset about being bragged to about me calling my friend instead of her, even though it was the first time I called my friend in a long time. In addition to this, my girlfriend naturally had her doubts and worries since I, in fact, did not share her feelings for me and her friends worsened those fears by telling her how it would not work out and that I was just using her. It became a normal thing for me to be required to undo her fears and doubts, magnified by her friends, before any pleasant conversation could take place.
In the meantime, I jumped into defense mode and informed my friend of my girlfriend's distaste in her lack of sincerity and asked her to stop. My friend was quite offended at both of us at first, but realized I had done nothing wrong, and turned her attention to my girlfriend. My friend explained to me how she would say certain things to my girlfriend in such a way as to not cause concerns to arise about my friend's possible feelings for me. She noticed my girlfriend's fears about losing me due to my lack of feelings for her, and she would refrain from saying things in a way to prevent my girlfriend from thinking she wanted to take me away from her. My girlfriend saw these things as indications that my friend didn't care about me and was just pretending to befriend me to my face. It became decreasingly enjoyable talking with my girlfriend, since talks were less and less about fun things and more and more about her fears and her being lonely when I don't get online. At some point I didn't get online for a few days and she was letting what her friends told her get to her. She was leaving me emails saying she thinks she's losing me when all I had done was fail to get online a few days. I would come home from work tired and she'd want to talk for a long time. She later referred to this as "not reasons... excuses" in a diary entry she wrote. I emailed her back, responding to the assumptions she made, based on her fears, and telling her how they weren't true, but I was getting tired of having to continually reassure her that I wasn't avoiding her or any of the other things she was afraid I was doing. She responded back and said that it's up to me to decide if we stay together or not. Frankly, I had decided that this whole situation was a bad thing to do from the start, since I never expected it to last, but I gave it a chance anyway. I wanted to see if it would prove my gut instincts wrong. It turned out to be where she was unhappy and lonely, when this whole relationship was started to show her what a good relationship would be like, and I no longer enjoyed being with someone whom I had no feelings for. I determined that it was inevitable that it would end sometime, and the longer I let it go, the more it would hurt her when it ended. I decided against emailing her back and picked up the phone to call her. We discussed the situation thoroughly and I explained why I thought it would be a good idea to break up. I asked what her opinion on the matter was, after hearing my thoughts. She said she would not make the decision, it was all up to me. She also said that we would cease to be friends if it was ended since it would be the last time she let me hurt her. I felt really bad about the whole thing and decided to stay together to see if things would get better.
I quickly saw how nothing would change, as far as my presence online and her need for my company. One night, when I had told her I was going to be on late to talk with her, it turned out that I had to get up early and would be unable to stay late, so I didn't feed any attempts to be flirty, since I knew it would end up with her wanting to talk to me longer and longer. She said she was lonely, and I knew that it was starting again. Only later did she tell me that she was just teasingly saying it to get a hug, but that's what made me decide to stop being a wimp and do what needed to be done for both of us. She needed someone who would love her back and I could already tell that it wasn't going to be me. As long as she stayed with me, she would miss any chances with someone else. I also didn't like feeling guilty about talking to my friend, whom I liked. I brought it to her attention that I thought it be the best to break up. Her first protest was that I was just looking for a reason to break up. Then she accused me of being with her just to "get some". When she reminded me that she'd no longer be my friend after that night, I told her that I'd rather lose her as a friend than continue something that wasn't real and end up hurting her more. She took that and turned it into me not caring if I lost her as a friend or not. After many attempts to explain the good behind it and her saying that I'm punishing her and that I don't care and that I was breaking her heart 10 times more than any of her past boyfriends, I decided there was no way I could make it any easier on her. I was the bad guy no matter what I said, and my attempt to explain it to her as honest, yet nice as possible was slandered, in her version, into a heartless and cold murder of her feelings for me.
After that night, remembering how she said she hoped I never found happiness, after me telling her I hope she does, and also that she said that night would be the last I ever talked to her, and added to by her continual mentions in my friend's diary that I'm no longer in her life, I have taken her off my buddy list, seeing no reason to have someone on there who is obviously never going to talk to me. In the event that she didn't mean it, she would have been lying for all that time during our break-up, something she accuses me a lot of. Then I hear from a mutual friend that she told him I'm mad at her and that I blocked her. Tell me, why would someone, who never wants to be my friend again and who makes a complete, uncaring jerk out of me on her diary, care if she was on my buddy list or not? Like I said: "the world is a crazy place."
 
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Wow. That chick sounds freakin crazy. The type where you just back away slowly, and take off running as far away as you can. Theres some really wacko people in the world

You're both pretty damn messed up. If you had no feelings for her, why would you "give it a try?" What's there to try? Sex, perhaps, but what else? She's also messed up in the sense that she became emotionally attatched to someone she knew wouldn't ever love her. Oh, and Jason, quit trying to sound smart. Quite frankly, you don't. Your English is off, and so is your reasoning. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I thank you for your note back. I suppose the entry would have been written better if you hadn't had written it in between tech calls. [mini-lyricmaniac]

You make me laugh, Jason. You seem to be trying to make me sound like some crazy chick and you know I'm not. Plain and simple, you shouldn't have said some of the things you said to me, (which will be posted), and you shouldn't have been with me. No matter how you word it, you did give me false hope and it did seem like all you wanted was sex. You're not worth a single one of my tears.

Oh, and you seem to have forgotten to write about how I apologized for saying I hope you never find happiness. Then again, I don't think you can find happiness in a sock... but you're full of surprises.

How very... American Pie of you, Jason. G-d and I expected more of you than for you to waste your seed like that! Sinful, sinful you. [mini-lyricmaniac]

After reading the notes you've gotten, I decided to read through the entries again to see if I missed something... still looks the same to me. Don't let anyone guilt trip you about writing 'your side' of the events down. I didn't see you noting her complaining about her apparently trying to make you look like a heartless, sex-hungry jerk (when if "all you wanted" was really to sleep with...

...her, then you obviously wouldn't have broken up with her before the visit. So like I said... don't let anyone guilt trip you over it, you had every right to post your feelings.

That last note is completely ridiculous, since you aren't the one who said anything resembling American-Pie antics.

You rightfully defend yourself, and she's back to the insults. ~sigh~


Hey you know what... "everyone puts meaning into anything being said to them according to what they would mean if they had said it." - that's pretty much exactly what I was talking about the other night about things with Scott and you. So no wonder you understood what I meant! I'm still sorry I was all bummed about whatever, but thanx for understanding and not getting depressed also. ^_^

Hmm... was I saying you were wrong for posting your opinions? Nope. I was commenting on how you forgot quite a few things. Like, for instance, how you STILL wanted to come see me and keep our original plans even after we broke up. And don't deny it. I have that conversation saved, too. :o}

Oh, and as for your note you left in Kelli's diary, yes... I did mean my apology. I don't apologize for no reason, Jason. The stuff I plan on posting isn't stuff to make you look bad and evil or whatever. You left A LOT out of these entries and I am tired of you making me look like this crazy, manipulating person when I'm not. So, you've put me in a position where I have to prove that my version..

...of the story doesn't look like the rantings of a crazy woman. I have to prove that they are the heartbroken emotions of someone who was very badly hurt and nothing more. I love you, Jason and I always will and that sucks for me because I hate you as much as I love you... maybe less. You need to learn that you can't do this type of thing to people and get away without consquences.

IS: i did want to come see u, like i said, i like being ur friend, heck, if u werent gonna end all communication after tonight, i'd still wanna come visit u, its just that its very stupid for me to give u false hope of a long relationship and thats something i was blind to at first”
Visiting as a friend and visiting with original plans intact are two very different things...

...I don't see anything about sticking with the original plans. I can attest that Jason is quite capable of visiting a girl as a friend and not even suggesting anything further. Just because he still wanted to be your friend and visit you as such doesn't mean he wanted to keep to the original plans - it just means he enjoyed your friendship.

LOL... maybe the fact that he wanted to do this BEFORE we even got together is what tipped me of that he would still wanna do it. As I said, I'll be posting proof that I'm not just pulling stuff out of the air. [Star Gazer ¤]

You know, you baffle me. I read the notes you left Jamie, and thought I'd pipe up... because it's what I do best. I know Jamie won't ask it, so I will. What do you want from her? What is it you expect from her? What do you see your relationship being in the future? Do you see friendship? Do you see casual acquaintences? What is it you want? I don't really think you know. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I think you enjoy the drama. I think you're loving every second of it. I think you love Kelli standing up for you. I think you've always loved her, and I think you will continue to love her (and be in love with her) for a very long time. I think what you did is wrong. JUST PLAIN WRONG. I think you knew that, too. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I think you knew exactly what you were getting yourself into. I think you knew Jamie was an emotional person. I think you just couldn't wait to be with Kelli, so you settled for Jamie. I think you're sick. I think you aren't as stuck on your morals and values as you say you are. I think you have fewer than some of the most unreligious people I know. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I think you're unhappy with yourself. You're a 21 year old virgin, not by choice, who used to work as a glorified cart boy and now works as a glorified phone operator. I think you're not happy with that. I think you lose yourself in your cartoons because it's easier than finding yourself in real life. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I think many things about you Jason. I think you owe Jamie and yourself one hell of a huge apology, and I don't think you're going to do it. I think you're low. I think you're sick. I think the way you try to justify your actions is disgusting. I think it's almost funny. Needless to say, I think quite a bit about you, but I think very little of you. [mini-lyricmaniac]

Jason, while you baffle me, you're not too complex. You're a jerk. I tell her like it is, and have been telling her like it is from the get go. I told her that you're no good. I was right. You're a lowlife with few morals and few values. You used her for companionship and for feeling wanted. You do realize that you used her, right? You're scum. [mini-lyricmaniac]

As far as me leading anyone on, I don't. I tell people like it is. I lead her to believe only that she's better than to have deserved you, and I'm right. Anyone deserves better than that. You were so wrong it's unbelievable. The fact that you try to justify it is damn near unexplainable and unexcusable. You're a slime ball. [mini-lyricmaniac]

As far as learning lessons from my first graders, I learn every day from them. Any good teacher learns from his or her students. They're better people, and quite frankly, more articulate than you'll ever hope to be. They know how to put a simple sentence together. Can't say the same for you. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I am glad though that you're being a bit nicer to Jamie though. You should be groveling for her forgiveness, but I'm sure that's too much to expect from you. I'm sure she'll forgive you, and I'm sure she'll befriend you again. That's who she is. I know I sure wouldn't. Honestly, you're weaving a web. I hope you're happy with its outcome. I hope you don't become tangled in it. [mini-lyricmaniac]

You don't know half of the meaning of having it hard. You looked at your cat and dog and that would be hard? How can I honestly believe anything you say, Jason? You've never once shown me any emotion except your claim for crying the nite we broke up. I hardly believe that, either. You want to know what pain is? Try looking at it from my perspective. You can't even do that because...

...you're too busy making me look like the bad guy in this. You want to know pain? Try laying in bed, crying your heart out and having to pretend you don't care. Try having to watch all of your friends have the happiness that you thought you had. You have Kelli. You love Kelli. What do I have, Jason? A necklace, a video, convos, e-mails, memories and they all remind me of YOU.

I can't say everything the way Rachel can because she's stronger than me and that's why I love having her as a friend. She can say the things I wish I could say. I TOTALLY agree with everything she noted you with. You used me, you led me on and you still think you did no wrong. If you did nothing wrong, then why do I battle with my everyday life? Why do I find it hard to just get out of bed...

...because I know that every little thing around me will reduce me to a pile of tears and anger because they remind me of you. Don't give me that crap about how you missed me and were hurt because you don't even know the HALF of it. Kindly retract your head from your ass if you're going to start accusing me of crap again. And, you can add liar to the list of things you are.

Why? Because Randy told me last nite that you said you still want to be friends and talk to me, yet you still have my blocked. The ONLY reason I'd talk to you right now is for closure. You stooped really low when you dumped me over the computer instead of using what balls you have to call me! Why should I be nice? You messed with me like I was a toy for almost a year!

"Don't allow someone to be your priority when they only allow you to be their option"
That was my first mistake. I made you top priority and I was only an option to you. Well, I've got news for you. I'm NOT just an option. I am a human being and deserve a helluva lot better treatment than what you gave me! It's called human decency. Try it!

Dearest, I don't put thoughts into her head. You do. You tell her you'll be boyfriend/girlfriend, but tell her you also feel nothing toward her except for lust. You laugh with Kelli at her, but then tell her that you're hoping you can be friends. You basically make it sound like she's insane, but then tell her she's a great person. You really should make up your mind. [mini-lyricmaniac]

Oh, and another thing. Aren't you kind to have unblocked her. You sure did her a favor! *scoffs* You're lucky she's even willing to talk to you. You don't deserve that much, but she's a pretty forgiving person. [mini-lyricmaniac]

And have you no response to my entry? Bet it was too much for you. The truth hurts, doesn't it? You're a sinful, immoral person. You'll just have to come to terms with that sad fact. [mini-lyricmaniac]

Baka. I just saw your last note again and you are sooooo very wrong. Exercise can hurt you. If you do too much too soon, or too often, or don't stop when you feel a litght pain... it can hurt. So there. ^_^

What are you talking about? [mini-lyricmaniac]

First, did I ever ask you to apologize? I told Jamie it'd be nice if you did truly apologize, but your apology was pretty crappy. The last line messed it up because it wasn't even directed to me. It was there for Jamie to see. The same reason Kelli didn't accept Jamie's apology is the same reason I don't accept yours. Yes, I told you that you should apologize to Jamie. I hope you have. [mini-lyricmaniac]

"First, you consider Jamie to look crazy based on the events that I wrote about. Then, you blame me for making her look so, and tell me to apologize." As for this part of youre note, what in the hell are you talking about? I told you that your entry indirectly implied that Jamie was crazy, and told you that you should apologize. How is that inconsistent? You f*cked up, you apologize for it. [mini-lyricmaniac]

As for your notes in general, I'm having a hard time with them. They're not well written, and you assume I know what in hell you're thinking at the time you write them. Here's a tip. I don't. I'm not a mind reader. I can't fill in your mental blanks for you. I've even had to ask Jamie to translate. Please, think before you press send. Stop using so many pronouns. I can't decipher them. [mini-lyricmaniac]

I'll take your explanation as some sort of twisted apology. You're forgiven. Don't choke... just cough a bit. Be sure to raise your hands high in the air when you do. It raises the diaphram and often times unlodges that which was blocking your breathing. In other words, it makes it easier to breathe. Oh, and thank you for attempting to articulate your latest note to me. [mini-lyricmaniac]

You need to start fighting your own battles and start acting like a man should because, frankly, Kelli is making you look worse. I'm sick and tired of your crap stories and lies. You tell me one thing and she proves you wrong. Don't tell me you still want to be friends when you can't even find the courage to clean up your own messes. You know who this is.

Whether you like it or not, Kelli is fighting your battles. She's a war-monger. (Lol. I just made that up. You like?) She enjoys the drama, otherwise she would bow out. Anyhow, you say Kelli's points do not hold enough water to catch your attention. Do you or don't you believe her? Do you or don't you believe Jamie? You've really got to decide what you want and pick a side. [mini-lyricmaniac]

Riding the fence is uncomfortable for you and the people involved. Choose. Be a man. [mini-lyricmaniac]

It doesn't matter anymore. I just went thru the worst possible thing that could have happened. I'm not going to sit here and tell you what in a note. Unlike some people, I don't feel the need to be a coward and go thru notes. In fact, I think I'll e-mail you.

Just leave Jamie alone, alright? You're a no good for nothing bum, and she needs not hang out with people like you. You're horrible for her and to her. I'm glad she's moving past you. Hope you learn a lesson for next time. [mini-lyricmaniac]

nice... nice... unknown word... closest match: fried rice.
Hehe. I want some tacos! Taco! Taco! Taco!

She meant leave me alone all together. No friends, no e-mails, nothing. The reason is because I had a heart attack and died (as I e-mailed you about) and the caused for the stress that caused the heart attack was you and Kelli. Rachel is just trying to prevent me from having another heart attack that could wind up in my death. It's called caring. Something you didn't do when you found out.

I can see you not caring that you hurt someone terrible, but saying, "Hope you feel better", and still being a complete jerk after finding out someone you considered a dear friend had a heart attack because of you? Jesus, Jason... you've hit a whole new low. I shouldn't even be leaving this note because it could agitate my heart from being upset. You're going straight to hell.

I haven't had time to respond to your email, though I will. You can be sure of it. You didn't actively attack her. You just used your best friend to actively attack her. Big difference, right? You know, I feel pretty bad for you. Your best friend is someone you've met once. You have no significant other. You live with your parents. You're a virgin (not by choice). [mini-lyricmaniac]

You're a glorified operator. Your member resembles mini-me. You have not graduated high school. You think drinking a beer is a big deal. You believe in high morals, but don't seem to have any. You wear clothes that resemble those of a stripper. You idolize cartoon characters. Your language skills are something to laugh at. You poor, poor boy. I pity you. [mini-lyricmaniac]

PAI-CHECK! ~click~
kero, kero!
^_^

I think it's time you stop letting people get to you and start writing in your diary again. There are people out there who want to know how you're doing and what's new in your life.

LOL. Yeah, but apparently those people who are so very interested in your life aren't willing to identify themselves? I wonder why that is...

truly,

- - D's G - -

I don't identify myself because I don't have a diary here and I'm a random reader. If you need a name you can call me Jessica.

 

   
 
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